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Dump Autodesk Inventor 2018 and get Solid Edge ST10 Half Price Until 3-23-18

Yes as that warm fuzzy feeling that embraces you while you reside in that secure happy place Autodesk cocoon begins to go all Artcam on you I have something for you to consider. If you use that dog barker Inventor and you have been feeling the love from the Autodesk Hydra pseudopods surrounding you there is hope.

SE is offering a buy two get one free or discounts on add ons https://www.plm.automation.siemens.com/country/en-us/topic/solid-edge-portfolio-promotion/12642. I have never agreed with the idea you have to buy two seats to get this discount and have argued against it for years. If you want one seat to try it out or you are like me and you only need one this is a dumb offer. But if you find you might need two or more it is a good way to find out what SE is all about with PERMANENT SEATS so you have time to learn as you will and not that 30 or 45 day window that always seems to go by before you have done more than load it.

It infuriates me when leadership at software companies treat users/customers like garbage and in truth this is what started this blog some six + years ago. Sadly while SE management has been smothered by the UGS NX PLM World cabal who fear the growth of SE, SE itself is a world beater in MCAD and has small market share only because of people within Siemens and UGS who have sabotaged its growth. They believe that SE represents a threat to their precious NX God and they are right. The merits of SE are considerable and I have been a user since ST1. Certainly compared to Inventor the only reason not to look at SE is because you are too lazy to learn another program. IF you could be bothered to spend some time there you will find fewer clicks, better popup menus, direct editing that makes Inventors look worse than ST3 whereas SE is now on ST10 and they are actually making strides forward each year. Oh and silly of me to forget to mention they want you as a customer and you can rent or buy seats and they are not going up 10 to 15% or more per year.

Don’t let the inertia of what you know already stifle the discovery of something that will allow you to work faster and better with a rational work flow. If you must and desire something that is used far more often in this days world there can be no choice other than Solid Works. I don’t happen to like SW and I looked into it twice. Both time it just was bizarre to me and counter intuitive. SE just made sense and in fairly short time even if I did not know where the commands were I kind of knew where to find them. Now there are tutorials and search tool for these things but many of us only use these as a last resort it seems. Strange but true.

Anyway with the end of Artcam if there is any doubt about where Inventor is heading let me help you. This is the poor guy stuck with putting a happy face on what Autodesk is doing to Artcam customers. Sixth comment down says

Autodesk Have A Screwed Day Greetings

Here is the forum link. https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/artcam-forum/changes-to-autodesk-artcam/td-p/7758469

Now I have to tell you that Autodesk is axing developers and programs. More and more these poor Autodesk employees mention Fusion360 and have you checked it out yet? Can you imagine the internal cringe this poor guy has to even mention Fusion360 in the same breath as Artcam with such a huge difference in what the programs do? This raving subscription only idiot Anagnost is going to kill TONS of programs and demand that you adopt Fusion360 as a replacement even though it can’t be a capable replacement. This is how they will end Inventor and HSM and others. End the program and those pesky perpetual seat holders are also legally eliminated.

Do not ask for whom the bell tolls if you are an Autodesk customer unless you really want to know.

Autodesk Artcam Killed, Will You Be Next?

First off I want to thank Blog Nauseam for keeping me updated on Autodesk happenings. I went there Saturday to catch up since it has been a while. When you are no longer a customer of Autodesk you tend to live in your own little secure perpetual license world. It is one where whatever treachery or Anagnost anti-customer stupidity vomiting forth from them has no effect on your life anymore.

Now you were wise enough not to fall for the subs idea weren’t you? Well let us hope so because in ways that can’t be denied anymore Autodesk has shown with Artcam what they think of you. CNC Zone is a group of machining related forums and is an indicator of market use and interest in various software. In a world where hard data is impossible to come by one looks for indicators as to what is going on. There is an Artcam subheading and then an Autodesk one with HSM Inventor Cam and Fusion360 all in one. Today as is pretty typical Artcam has more readers than brand A’s stuff.  http://www.cnczone.com/forums/

Remember well the push by Autodesk to sell more perpetual seats to users before they cut them off. You were advised to buy more to cover future needs if you liked perpetual. Of course it was not long before the ugly side started showing up. Then come the announcements by Anagnost to investor firms that perpetual will be phased out. Then comes the new pricing structure which has by historical industry standards huge price increases  to punish you for being stupid enough to want to control your life by keeping perpetual seats. That thing they just had sold many of you on by the way.

It has been my belief that Autodesk intends to axe a bunch of programs and roll them over into Fusion360 where possible. Now I had presumed this would have been Inventor and HSM and Inventor Cam primarily. With a $285,000,000.00 price tag for the acquisition of Delcam and it’s customer base I figured they would be safe from the Fusion360 have to work online garbage. If you care to remember this is precisely what Autodesk said about Delcam to. We are not going to touch them and they will continue as an autonomous entity except they are now owned by Autodesk. I guess this is why the end or perpetual seats for Delcam happened about a year later than Inventor HSM and Autodesk etal.

Once again Autodesk was proven to be a pack of liars and grasping for ways to turn into the next Adobe. You see this was the important thing. Please institutional investors but not the investors in the products called customers. Funny how that worked out to as tone deaf and blind dear Andrew Anagnost figures he can do what he wants to customers and they won’t be offended and leave but rather will eagerly stand in the cotton fields and ask him how can they give even more to him for less in return.

Today with the advent of the end of Artcam all you subscription suckers better wake up and find the exit. You see since you were stupid, I do use that term deliberately by the way because putting your companies future into insecure hands is, well it is stupid. When subscriptions end they do just that. You do not work any more. Autodesk has stated that 11-1-18 will be the end for Artcam support. You have a subscription for Artcam and trusted Autodesk with your future you are now a part of Autodesks new wave perpetual licensing paradigm. Namely Perpetually Screwed. They sold you on up front savings and what your getting is the perpetual axe.

Delcam has a bunch of minor niche market programs like Dental Cam and Shoe Cam and who knows what else. I bet these have smaller markets by far than Artcam so all you Delcam users of anything other than the biggest Delcam products be prepared for the ram.

Here comes the 11th down quarter for Autodesk followed by the 12th and at some point in time even the idiots fueling the stock market hyper over valuation will wake up and discover this nice Autodesk lady they have been sleeping with is in truth an axe murderer and terminally ill to boot.

People I don’t care WHAT Autodesk product you are using. If you do not have enough sense to get away from them while you can do so in an orderly way you are just plain silly. Autodesk is telling you every way they can they are going to screw over all who stay BY THEIR ACTIONS.

The words that come out of serial liars mouths are not the things you want your future to be dependent upon.

For you CAD guys look into Bricscad for Autocad replacement. For 3D design check out Solid Edge and both of these companies want you as customers by the traditional standards of willing seller willing buyer.

Corporate Forever Promises Are Worth The Paper They Are Written On

Reading stuff on the Practical Machinist CAD/CAM forums the last few days where Autodesk continues to be brought up by various people. Seems to be running about 5 to 1 regarding Autodesk with loathing in a big lead. Another company I despise is AT&T. Masters of lobbying corrupt government officials so they can get out of promises made like when they bought out Bell South and said they would continue rural broad band roll outs as a condition to buy them. To this day some seven years later I have fiber to the top of the ridge around 10,000 feet away where Bell South ran it and AT&T left it. I am lucky to get 75kbs and AT&T has ordered no new DSL equipment for years so when things break it is harder and harder for techs to even get us service.

So why mention AT&T today? I received an ad from them that was priceless and I will show you a couple of screen captures from it.

We will love you forever—-promise!

I included the intellectual property section so you know all these logos and junk belong to AT&T. I thought it was a nice touch that they would show a stone fool liberal idiot as an incentive to buy into their mess.

What is a promise worth these days with these big outfits? I think of Inventor Pro with Autodesk over the last year. There were a ton of extra programs I could access a while back. Just before my perpetual seat ended on 12-15-17 I went to download all I could and much to my amazement there was about a 75% reduction in aps Inventor Pro now had rights to even though the price was going up 25% by 2019.

I propose a new addition to anything anyone says at any time from Autodesk. I like the way AT&T said it and the intent behind it. “Offers, programming, pricing, terms & conditions subject to change and may be discontinued at any time without notice.” The famous old price creep everyone who has ever had satellite TV has experienced as soon as they can get away with it.

Just like Autodesk who has now had ten declining income quarters in a row now AT&T is losing subscribers left and right because bait and switch is not a viable alternative when other options become available. Neither is subscription only industrial software to industries when other options are available and I look with glee to Autodesks upcoming eleventh down quarter in a row and wait to see how mercenary evil guy Anagnost spins it as a plus THIS time.

My opinion for what it is worth is that AT&T and Autodesk share common values and avarice towards customers. Their promises are worth the paper they are written on only and of value just like the rolls of paper we all buy and use most every day. AT&T has my business because I am forced to go there. Autodesk does not have my business because they had no ability to force me there but they wanted to try doing so. Autodesk has lost my business forever and as soon as I can dump AT&T they will too.

Autodesk, This Is A Reminder I Am Leaving On 12-15-17

Got this email a week or two ago. Slightly edited to protect a good VAR who is also in the process of getting screwed by Autodesk. At least Autodesk is an equal opportunity screwer and if you are not inside certain C suites you are fair game.

Autodesk
Dear Dave Ault,
This is a reminder that your maintenance plan on Contract # 110000000000 will expire on December 15, 2017. Your renewal number is A-5000000.
You now have the option to renew your contract for one year or switch to a subscription*. If you choose to switch to subscription (only available at the time of renewal), you can start to enjoy these subscriber benefits:

* Latest and greatest product capabilities – Get ongoing updates to products and services and new functionality, as soon as they’re available.
* New and improved support – Enjoy faster response times and the option to receive help by scheduling a call with Autodesk technical support specialists.
* Simplified administration – Access tools that streamline deployment and software management when you standardize all of your Autodesk products on subscription.

Your reseller, (Insert name of VAR also getting screwed here).
For more information, go to Autodesk Account.
*Not all products on a maintenance plan are eligible to switch to subscription. Consult with your reseller for complete details.

As you can imagine I thought about writing a notice for them.

Dear Autodesk and Andrew Anagnost,
This is a reminder that this customer on maintenance customer on contract #11000000000 will not be sending you any more money after December 15, 2017.
Your contract dismissal letter number is A-5000000. You have no options available to renew this contract except to end subscriptions only.
If you choose to end subscriptions and huge yearly price hikes you will enjoy these benefits:

I will pay you this year.
I will pay you next year.
I will pay you the year after that too.

*All products on a maintenance plan are required to be continued and supported yearly. Contact your customer for pro-rated income to you if they are not.

There is no doubt in any rational persons mind that PR and Marketing people have an absurdly tenuous grasp on reality as it concerns their customers or target markets. How do you like that list of benefits as extolled in words that no customer could POSSIBLY resist! I told my wife to hide the check book before I succumbed to the siren song of Marketing and PR droids sweetly singing in my ear and sent another years fees off. This list of benefits is about as worthy of consideration as a CNN book on “The Honesty of Bill and Hillary Clinton”. Or perhaps Hillary’s new forthcoming book on “Stopping The Culture of Sexual Harassment In Government”. Or Al Franken’s soon to be released “How To Be Admired By Wimminck!” Or Huma Abedin’s book on “Care And Cleaning of (S)hag Carpets”.

Have a MAGA GREAT Thanksgiving everyone and remember the things that made this the greatest nation the world has ever seen in such a short period of time. Teach your children the truth about America before liberal idiots get to them and pass this legacy of freedom and prosperity on to the future.

Written before Thanksgiving obviously but I decided to post as is with this notation because the sentence before this one is useful year round. Talk to your children and grandchildren to prepare them for the liberal liars that will accost them at every turn.

Autodesk Inventor Ultimate 2018 CPA MBA Marketing Insanity

Before I begin the bashing I do have some good things to say today about the HSM side of Ultimate. It looks like the assigning of Jeff Peck over the HSM group is bearing fruit. The latest developmental downloads have seen the pace of improvement pick up and so finally HSM is moving forward again. Almost I could be persuaded to give Autodesk another years worth of $$$ but I draw the line at fiscal coercion which is their preferred future modus operandi IF they can get away with it. Going on ten quarters of declining profits now even though the stock market which has little bearing on true dividend earnings for shareholders any more seems to like them so far. I have met some really good people with HSM and it is the plantation overseers I object to. They are the whole problem and it is a big one for rational cost containing consumers.

Yep CPA’s and MBA’s will in time go down as the group of management responsible for the moving of industry to China, the complete lack of loyalty to anything other than manipulating stock values for their own personal benefits and the gross increase in upper level income and perks relative to historical norms. This is the mindset that will make lots of millionaires in the C suites while at the same time they are removing the ability of their customers to afford much of the offerings because their high paying jobs have been eliminated by offshoring. It is why cars and trucks are now up to huge costs and long notes.

“According to new data from Experian Automotive, the average new and used-car loan terms are now at record highs of 67 and 62 months, respectively. What’s more, roughly 30% of new car loans being written today are for loan terms of between 73 and 84 months — a 19% increase over the first quarter of last year and the highest percentage recorded since Experian began publishing this figure in 2006.” http://tinyurl.com/ycwbjbb7

Here is a comment on executive pay by historical norms from 2014. http://tinyurl.com/k8v9q3h
“From 1978 to 2013, CEO compensation, inflation-adjusted, increased 937 percent, a rise more than double stock market growth and substantially greater than the painfully slow 10.2 percent growth in a typical worker’s compensation over the same period.
The CEO-to-worker compensation ratio was 20-to-1 in 1965 and 29.9-to-1 in 1978, grew to 122.6-to-1 in 1995, peaked at 383.4-to-1 in 2000, and was 295.9-to-1 in 2013, far higher than it was in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, or 1990s.” When coincidently hourly wages bought far more and economic growth was as an average greater than the last fifteen CPA MBA run years. In 1967 I made $1.65 an hour at McDonalds. It bought FIVE gallons of gas though and all things being equal I would have to make $12.25 after taxes today to do the same. My first new car was a $2,700 1974 Hornet Hatchback and I paid that off in six months with my $9 something per hour Chrysler assembly line worker wage. I don’t think you could even get a three year long loan for vehicles back then.

This brings us full circle to the current thief now in charge of Autodesk. Another C suite dude who thinks a company’s sole reason for existence is stock manipulation for personal wealth creation. I would love to see what he thinks he is worth and the golden parachute in place so even if (when) he fails he gets to steal even on his way out. Gone is the forward-looking planning and today it is how can we lie today for gains today driven by increase in the value of stocks today. Never a word about shareholder income in dividends which made this country great and provided secure retirements for many. Today it is a house of cards here and if you can ride it up well and good. You stay there to long and you are toast. In the past, up until I figure about 2000, if stocks declined precipitously you were covered by the dividend income you bought the stock for. Capital gains was the icing on the cake and not the cake. Anyway.

I go to the Autodesk forum today. http://tinyurl.com/yakf6zs6 It is just to amusing for words but I will try anyway. Remember cost containment is for the anointed but not for the unwashed masses.

“Hi all –

We’ve been watching the feedback regarding the elimination of the backplotting capabilities in the version of the CIMCO Editor that ships with Inventor HSM and HSMWorks. It’s clear that this is a capability that many of you are genuinely missing. We’d like to give you a little background on what happened here, and what we’re planning to do about it.

For the past few years, we have had a technology sharing agreement in place where we could redistribute the Professional version of the editor, in exchange for access to the HSM CAM kernel. This agreement expired at the end of last year, so we had to renegotiate the arrangement.

The arrangement we reached, at considerable increased cost to Autodesk, was to redistribute only the Standard version of the editor, with a corresponding reseller agreement, where we can provide access to the Pro-level features at an extra cost.

We are considering an amendment to the agreement with CIMCO that would allow us to include the Professional version with certain levels of the Autodesk HSM product. This is still under discussion, and we have no firm plans to do this.

We apologize for the inconvenience, and truly regret that we weren’t able to provide advance notice of the change.

We’ll keep you posted about what, if any, adjustments we are able to make in this area. As has been noted in various forum posts, those of you with access to prior releases are still able to use the older version of the editor, with backplot capabilities.

Thank you very much for your feedback concerning how much you value the backplot feature.”

Now let me get this right. Mr Anagnost it is not OK for people to tell you what you should pay for a product but it is OK for you to do so to your customers. OK got it. Controlling your expenditures is prudent fiscal management but increasing your costs to your customers is a value added benefit you bequeath to them. Check. Gotta love the psychobabble garbage these people put on things to try to make extortion more palatable for the rubes.

My answer to you Mr Anagnost is go get screwed. This customer at least is willing to continue to do business with you on the terms that brought me here but understand I am not your cotton picker. The very second you tried to make this a coercive relationship is when you lost me and many others. I hope you fail and they strip you of your ill-gotten gains and the exit door puts a big welt on your butt on your way out. I watched one of your kind destroy the O’Charleys restaurant chain which was at one time the livelihood of about 14,000 people. By the time the MBA moron Greg Burns got done with it went from 600 plus stores to 200 some and had to be sold off to an investment company because it was failing. He too was grossly over compensated way above worth while he was there and got a nice severance package as he arranged the buyout of the chain HE had caused to fail.

I will never forget when one of Burn’s big shots started removing quality ingredients from food so as to save money and so he could get bigger personal bonuses each year for cost containment. A friend of mine was pretty silly and when asked his opinion on the latest Honey Mustard Dressing with a drop of honey and a ton of corn syrup compared to the old with lots of honey in it what he thought of it. He was told by the Vice President in charge of food quality for the whole restaurant chain that his negative opinion did not matter. That “people were stupid and we are going to educate them as to what they are going to like”. I kid you not and this was the beginning of the end for the old O’Charleys.

People do know what they like though and I in particular do not like the terms Autodesk now offers. Crash and burn Anagnost and the sooner the better. Your two faced self serving hypocrisy is here for all to see.

Autodesk ScrewU Ecosystem Grows

I guess that the very last part of all this Autodesk extortion modus operandai had until today one remaining bright light. I switched to Selway for my VAR and was told that support for me was available. I hardly ever use support so they never had the chance to prove that statement. In addition to that I never know what they would have offered me over a regular subscriber since I am a blogger. Suffice it to say today the last little bright light for me with anything Autodesk went dark. Strangely enough the guy who recommended Selway to me no longer works for Autodesk. Smart people are beginning to leave as the handwriting is on the wall.

October 3, 2017

Dear Autodesk, HSM customer,

You may have received an email from Autodesk referencing Manufacturing Collection. This has been creating some confusion.

As of October 1st, HSM is no longer available as a standalone subscription. It must be purchased as part of the Design and Manufacturing Collection, which is a suite of software designed to give you all the tools required to run a product design and manufacturing company. Navigate to this link for a full description of the software that is now available to you. https://www.autodesk.com/collections/product-design-manufacturing/included-software

This applies to subscription customers only. There is no change for customers who own perpetual licenses. If you own a perpetual licensee and would like to switch to a subscription to take advantage of this package deal. Please give me a call at (650) 664-9837

For subscription customers; you do not need to do anything. All customers will be converted to the Design &Manufacturing Collection automatically.

FAQ:

Q. Is there a price increase?

A. No: The price of the Design and Manufacturing Collection is $2460/year, which is $10 cheaper than what you paid originally for your annual subscription. Additionally, there are no longer two tiers of HSM, so multi-axis toolpaths and all advanced HSM functionality is now included at the same base price.

Q. Is Selway machine Tool support included in this price?

A. No: Autodesk will provide support for licensing and activation issues and there is support available at no charge on the user forums at https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/hsm/ct-p/213

Product support from a Selway machine Tool Application Engineer is available on an annual basis, under a support contact at $1,200/year, or by the hour at our normal hourly rate.

Q. Do I have to download all this software?

A. No: The software titles are available to you in your Autodesk dashboard at accounts.autodesk.com

Please contact us if you have additional questions. Selway Machine Tool appreciates your business and we look forward to continuing our valued relationship
Sincerely,

So if I read this right and I am Mr Normal customer what this amounts to is that support is now fee added after you pay fees going up each year faster than inflation for the software and the only possible benefit for many will be the addition of suites which have things you did not need or want enough to have purchased them voluntarily. Of course since it would be new to you and you would in all likely hood require support while learning to use new software you will oddly enough need to get your checkbook out and bend over. And if you ever start using all these nice things rest assured that Autodesk is working hard behind the scenes to make sure it will be very tough to ever leave them and go elsewhere with your data. The more you embrace of their glorious suites the more the tentacles will pull you in.

I have thought for some time now this whole subscription thing was also aimed at reducing the amount of money Autodesk has had to share with VAR’s. Var’s have to eat and survive to so fee added is going to become their way of life also. Autodesk will over time and I feel in the very near future limit all support to the forums only where by and large it will be other customers who will be supporting each other. I have no doubt that along with cutting R&D budgets and various types of software offerings customer support will be phased out too. Unless you are willing to spend per support incident or high yearly support fees with I am sure a support hours limit cap on them. Contrast this with Solid Edge where you as part of your yearly fee can actually contact support inside of the SE headquarters and they will talk to you. It has been that way since I came on board in 2009 and still is that way to this day.

But then SE is not run by robber barrons who think people should be retained with shackles like Autodesk does.

There is not one good thing I can say about any part of Autodesk Inventor HSM anymore. That also extends to the Autodesk corporation as a whole. My perpetual license expires this Dec 15th and Autodesk can kiss my rear end now and in the future. I am never coming back. Greedy mercenary hostile investors both from the outside and from the inside in the form of Andrew Anagnost have set Autodesk up with only one purpose in life. Loot and plunder and do everything they can to make escape impossible for any who foolishly enter therein.

Personally I think you must be crazy to either stay or walk in through the front door of the Trap Spiders Autodesk Tunnel.

Autodesk Inventor HSM and HSMWorks Customers Unhappy/ Leaving?

Today for the heck of it I wandered to the HSM forums. What got me going there was to see if there was a new update. While looking I see the count down clock to Dec 15 when Autodesk loses me as a customer and I wonder how many others are leaving too. While at the forums I go to the machining section and there are very few posts. Is it my imagination or is it true?

Easy enough to check and lets go back to 1-16 and go month by month.
1-16 29 posts
2-16 29
3-16 54
4-16 37
5-16 41
6-16 38
7-16 21
8-16 45
9-16 20
10-16 14
11-16 12
12-16 8
1-17 14
2-17 6
3-17 8
4-17 11
5-17 13
6-17 4
7-17 7
8-17 9
9-17 4

To me this is the single most glaring bit of proof Autodesk can’t run from nor hide from regarding it’s dismal failure in the pursuit of subscription only slaves. I am an actual current paid until 12-15-17 user and I went from big time fan of Inventor HSM 9-16 to purely angry today over being betrayed by greedy corporate morons who can only count projected income as important and customer satisfaction as irrelevant. If this precipitous drop off of posts means what I think it means, and remember I am using myself and my reactions and feelings about all this as a way of measurement, tons of us are leaving and just plain don’t care what these idiots do anymore. No I don’t mean the HSM developers and staff. They are victims too and I see some are leaving now.

How else can these numbers be interpreted as anything other than colossal failure and powerful evidence of coming doom for the plans of the almighty Baked Beans Anagnost Autodesk Plantation?